I have been watching many entries on the boards, and have gotten some pretty great ideas from you and others - but your answer about not having tried it yourself, patrice, makes me feel a lot better. I thought i was the only one who was chicken to try the stipple move. I am one of those who told my neighbor that she was nuts to cut up perfectly grand material into little pieces and then stitch it all back up. I AM NOW HOOKED - and she gives me a bad time about it every chance she gets - but she is such a great help and I could not get along without her help.