My mother had purchased one of these before she got her LA. She never got it out of the box, so I asked if I could try it. I like to do bigger quilts so I purchased the 2x2's and had my husband cut the 2x2's 5 foot. Now this one was quite abit older and that is what you put it together with 2x2's. It was way to heavy to move.(Maybe smaller pieces would of helped) Then my machine is and was a older Kenmore with a very small throat.I am guilty I did not have the patience and decided I didn't want to even try it anymore and I was very frustrated with it. But I am wondering if the newer model with light pvc pipe might be much more realistic so will be watching this thread to "find out".