Hi Quilt4u, It's 12.37 midday here in SA. What time is over there? It's also rather cold here at the moment. Quilting weather. Have just put lunch on and then I'm off to a quilting afternoon with my friends. We have quiet a few quilting groups. We have a group every monday afternoon, one every wednesday afternoon, one on a thursday morning - once a month, one one a wednesday morning once a month and an umbrella group on a monday morning once a month. I belong to all these, so guess who does a lot of hand work?