lab fairy, I love the "assisted living environments" you describe for the out-of-production machines. All the machines I have are great and I love them. To trade them in or sell them would be out of the question. I use the SE and Baby for my quilting because they are both wonderful. The trouble with buying brand new just released, blah, blah, sewing machines is, like anything else, there's bound to be bugs and whatnot that have to be fixed. I guess I just like the tried and true.