Well, I am going to stick to the old patterns there are enough of those around tha I should be okay. And if Patrice is still alive and kicking after that, I'll get her to start designing for me and she'll become rich and famous selling her original designs. Once that happens, we can all say, "I knew her when....." We will all be able to say how nice and generous she is and just how talented she is, and her business will be well on its way :!: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: