I bought mine brand new off of ebay. It's a Tin Lizzie 18 and has a stitch regulator, laser for panographs, there's a button for setting stitch length and needle position (up or down). It came with all of this, the frame and a couple of rolls of pantographs. I bought mine a little over a year ago and paid $4995.00. No taxes because I bought out of state and they offered free shipping. So that was my total cost. It's a great machine and I love it. Now learning from my mistakes -- It took my husband and I 2 days to set it up. Then it took a while to learn how to load the quilt. If I had bought local it would have cost a little more but I would have had a Tech to deliver the machine and show me all the things I had to figure out on my own. They would also have set the machine up. I would have learned in one day what it took me nearly a month to figure out on my own. But I still love my Lizzie.