I like Richard Hemmings milliners neeles, also. Size 11 is very thin, which is what I like to applique. Superior threads "Masterpiece" is a very thin thread that disappears as you stitch. I also use Mettler 60 weight, very thin also. I want to try DMC someday. Superior makes a "frosted donut" that has all their colors of Masterpiece in bobbins and a holder for them. It is great, I often use lots of colors in applique, but I don't need big spools of it, nor the expense.