Ah, I never knew there was so much to learn about thread! And you are all so helpful. I really do appreciate that! As for a picture, I will take one of her but right now I have just a bit of a mess on my table and I HATE to have a mess. I'm in the process of setting up my Gracie II still and so have the remaining parts on my table, plus my Janome Memory Craft 10,000 is sitting behind my new 1600 (worried that she may have been replaced...not a chance!). Once I have everything cleaned up I will take a pic. Maybe I'll throw my vintage Pfaff 130 in there that was my Dad's. It needs a whole lot of TLC to get it shiny and pretty again, but it works! It's set up for the hand crank and I just had it serviced.