Went back out to try again. They were there. Knew I came for the fabric. Said it was still in attic and too hot to go and get it (I agree). New story- she has a friend coming up next week from NY who has a biz selling pre cuts and thinks she will give it all to him. Hoped I would buy pre cuts she had there but that is not what I was looking for. Tried to interest me in some other (non-fabric /qulting related ) items but that is not what I was there for. So...that is end of story. I am really embarrased that I posted and it turned out to be a big zero. I am stubborn and won't give up the searching. DH is breathing easier now. Best wishes. fmd36 in NH