Thank You and Yes Rachel it does make sense, but this time I think I will stick to squares and retangles. Jan you are right sometimes when I look at the crazy quilt I tried to make and that has lots and lots of mistakes I don't see the mistakes and think what a great hobby this is and no one has ever mentioned the mistakes and I keep it on a chair in my living room. Luv I think I will try a pattern next time and see if I do better on that. I have gotten so much just out of these 3 post Thank You all so much I sure needed a lift now I think I will go back to doing my quilt