I don't know what kind you are looking for but I recently purchased several hand quilting hoops from Grace Frame and they are on ebay with reasonable rates. I haven't checked them lately, but I noticed last time they had the 18" still there. I think they are faizing out old models and coming out with new. I purchased several years ago my floor model Z44 on Overstock.com and it came directly from Grace Frame. They must have switched to eBay Good luck with your search, and I love mine.