Once I tried the spray, I've never gone back to all-overpinning. However, I do pin around the outside edges even with the spray. I've used the 505, which I like but hate the fact that it is highly flammable. I recently ran out of 505 and remembered someone here had mentioned AquaNet hairspray. I did have some, tried it, and it works great! I'm going to stick with that and it is much less expensive than 505.