I found several pkgs at harbour freight and now they are out of stock. They will call when they get more in...get a rain check. I use them and figure that there are only so many places to make them that they are just as good. I know that Heinz in Muscatine Iowa makes Heinz catsup and soups...but they also put different store brand labels on the same cans!! They also do the same (in Muscatine) with cat foods and other products that come from that plant.