i had a New Joy frame that i used with a brother 1500s (9" throat). i bought the combo at a show and the frame was terrific. it expanded to 120" or came down to queen, double and crib or wallhanging size. i didn't think it was sturdy enough when i first got it, but i was wrong about that. it held up great. i used it for one year then sold it when my kids bought
me a tin lizzie. most sew'n'vac sewing machine stores have them on the floor for you to check out. just remember, the size of the field of work is only as large as the throat size of the machine minus the size of the bunch of the fabric roll. with a 9" thrat machine i was only able to quilt about 6" or less at the very end when all the quilted fabric was under the machine. but i was still able to quilt two quilts at 96" x 96". one of them i had to do all the left to right stitching and then take the quilt off, turn it sideways and do left to right again to complete the design. does that make sense?