I have them, I ordered them as soon as they were available to buy. While waiting for them, I used everything a pin would stick into but after using the Pinmoors I tossed the other things. It is one of the few quilting tools I have not bought on sale. :lol: I now have enough to pin baste a king size quilt. I had to quit taking them to quilt workshops, everyone wanted to borrow just a few and I never got them back. :?