I have joint pain, especially in the big joint of the thumb that is up on your hand. Biofreeze helps, the glove has to be on or I can't do anything.Tylenol helps, I tend not to take it often, don't like meds. My doctor says when the knots on the joints get thru building that is when the pain will stop. Well I'm waiting, it hurts really bad. I have been trying to cross-stitch, finished one stocking, now onto another one. So I will have to take the tylenol to be able to do it. All this just started this year, came on with a bang. Prednisone would really help, but the side effects are bad. My biggest problem is opening things, jars, chip bags, wringing out a wash cloth, etc. Just everyday things. S0 arthritis stinks......