I made pasties (past-eeze in AZ) the other day. I was missing my best friend and her family. I always went to their house every year for a big family party ( 3 birthday parties at once) and her mom always made pasties for her dad. His mom made them every year until he was 17 and she died suddenly, so now his wife carries on the tradition for the whole family :) They make some with elk meat they hunt themselves and it is soooo good!!! Try it if you have some elk meat and don't know what to do with it. They just use meat potatoes and onions, their homemade spice blend (seasoned salt, pepper, and something else) and the crust mentioned above made with crisco. BUTTER flavored crisco not regular makes the crust taste better :) oh and my friend's family are welsh/irish from michigan :)