Thanks for the link. I'm glad you agree they look like the ones in the 430/440, so I know I'm not crazy. I'm annoyed b/c I saw them on Amazon and fabric.com for $1.98/5 bobbins. I thought that was the price and was waiting until I was going to buy something else to get the free shipping. Well, now the price is $7.98/5. Grrrr!