The machine I have was a trade-in. I happened to call the Janome dealer at the right time. The previous owner hadn't used this machine very long until she decided she wanted an embroidery machine and was going into a cottage business. My 4800 has sewn a lot of quilts, doll clothes, clothes for the grandkids and it's still going. I drool over the newer machines but this one is still doing just fine--and you can tell, since it's a 4800, that I've had it several years. I recommend calling a dealer and see what's available in a good, used machine and then you'll have help if the one you purchase gets goofy.