I went to a local dealer today...sadly the woman I got knew very little about the machines....and the only machine she wanted to sell me was a Elba for 3k...but she barely knew anything about it...I was so turned off...I had to press her to show me a baby locs but she knew nothing...I asked her what was the different features of the machines and she said they are all the same...I then said there must be a difference...why would I pay 1000.00 more if they are the same...she said its like buying a car...ford vs a cadillac....I could go on...every time I asked what is is the difference of the machines....stupid answers...one made in Europe the other in China or Twain...I left without buying anything...