Originally Posted by Mattee
I do not disagree that the whole house needs to be grounded. However, if surge protectors are nothing but a scam, there are thousands of websites that explain how a surge protector works that all must be lying.
First, the 'whole house' need not be grounded. Only a 'whole house' protector and all incoming wires must be earthed. Major difference.
Second, did you know that Saddam's WMDs were a myth? I did long before Shock and Awe. How can that be when thousands of websites and millions of people said he had WMDs?
A scam is that easily promoted - even for protectors that do nothing verses protectors that have been proven for over 100 years. I never said all surge protectors are a scam. I said protectors that do not even claim surge protection - ie APC, Tripplite, Monster - are profit centers.
Then I provided numbers for how profitable. Take a $3 power strip. Add some ten cent protector parts. Sell it for $40 or $150. That sounds like a superb scam because it works. Believe me. I would scam you just as avidly with profit margins that extreme.
Third, why is Monster also selling the same protector? Please stop entertaining your feelings. Grasp hard reality.
Did you know speaker wire has polarity? Swap the speaker and amplifier ends. Then audio sound is perverted. Of course not. But Monster was also selling speaker wire marked for the amplifier and speaker ends. Selling $7 speaker wire for $70 because that scam also worked. Reams of people could actually *hear* the difference.
That is what Monster does. Identify a scam. Then sell the same product for even higher profits. Monster is selling the same ineffective protectors sold by Belkin and Tripplite at even higher prices. Most 'assume' a higher price means better quality. Scams work. Especially when someone feels only because others tell them how to think - without facts or numbers. How many times have you cured the common cold?
Finally, show me thousands of web sites that explain how a protector protects from direct lighting strikes? That is what an effective protector did even 100 years ago. Many web sites will recommend a protector. But then foolishly claim nothing can protect from lightning. Why does your telephone CO do it with every thunderstorm? When thousands of web sites say nothing can protect from direct lightning strikes?
The scam is that widespread because so many feel rather than learn - as you are doing now. Where are those spec numbers? Not provided. APC and Tripplite do not even claim that protection.
Or, the latest shyster trick. Put that same protector circuit inside a fancier box with a digital number display. Sell the same $3 and tens of cents protector for many $hundreds under the Furman name. Yes, spin is that easy because so many people don't even ask a simple question. Where are those manufacturer spec numbers?
Oh. It’s a "line conditioner". So it must do more than a surge protector? What kind of logic is that? People using feelings.
How many died uselessly in Nam due to lies from the Gulf of Tonkin? At what point do you learn how easily scams are promoted? Or should we all be buying Pond's Age Defying creams because creams applied to dead skin cells stop aging? Or Dannon Yogurt because they invented a myth called something like digitalus retalitis for better digestion. Not one of how many cold remedies cures the common cold. How many millions waste money on Emergen-C, Airborne, and other scams. Please. Scams are routine and widespread. Which is why Monster is also selling power strip protectors.
Instead learn science proven for over 100 years. Your telephone CO suffers 100 surges with each thunderstorm without damage. COs earth 'whole house' protectors. And do not plug-in scams. COs do not want protectors that can even make damage easier.
It is this simple. A protector is only as effetive as its earth ground. No dedicated earth ground wire on that protector? You have just identified a scam.