Thanks for your help!! I might stop at the shop tonight, as I have to take a friend (ex-husband!!) for surgery tomorrow!!(when the sale actually starts) I'm currently using a 30 yr old singer that's had a lot of use..hard use!! jeans, suede,even tents for cripes sake!! It's starting to clunk some, and as I get 'more mature" :lol: :lol: I find I'd like a few features and fancy stitches (especially a threader :shock: ). She has machines for classes so you don't have to haul your own, smooth business move..I'm hooked :D So I think I'll see if she has something I can afford (700-800 bucks..I've been saving). Probably not new, but used. Its only 4 miles away, so maint. &repair shouldn't be a problem. I'll let you know what happens. OOOOH, I'm soooo excited :lol: :lol: :lol: