I have one of the originals and I guess I didn't read the directions about not doing the Phaff bobbins. I didn't have any problems although with the Creative Vision you don't have to unthread the needle to wind the bobbin like on my other machine. I love mine and it winds the thread very evenly. I really like it however for the Janome since I DO have to unthread that one to fill a bobbin. Good luck.