A friend of mine makes them every morning. She swears by Sunflower self rising flour, butter flavor Crisco and buttermilk. Handle as little as needed to mix, roll and cut. Hers are great, but IMHO that is something you need to practice. I buy the frozen ones and they are just as good, in fact, better than mine because I dont do it that often. I am diabetic and bread is my weakness- so I try to bake them sparingly.