I am brand new to Long arming (just three months) and I have an HQ Avante, even with a huge oversized queen on Saturday I only took an hour and a half! All pinning, no zippers, I actually find it quite relaxing to get it all onto the frame and rolled so that it is nice and neat and I know that there will be no creases or tucks on the backing when I am finished! It took sooooooooooo much longer and was so much more stressful to prepare and baste even a small lap size on the floor! lol