Waiting on my new hoop as we speak! I have every quilting hoop/stand there is I think! I have the expensive Hintenberg, I have the pvc, I have 24" no slip & I have a 12" lap hoop. I just think hand quilting take time to get use to! I absolutely dread it until I get started. Once I get started & comfortable I'm addicted. But I am a hooper, too afraid not to use one for some reason