Talking about a very permanent red color, I wish I could find some old Coty 24 lipstick that I used to get 20 or more years ago. Now that did last and last. In fact, it got so that a lot of hospitals said not to use any lip stick before operations, and one nurse I knew said she mentioned Coty 24 to the patients days before the operations. They can know at a glance you're low on O2 just by looking at lips and fingernails, which means no nail polish either. I'd even accept lipstick with Cochineal in it!!!! In fact, maybe it was made from insects in the first place!!