I hear there is a rumor that to be a REAL quilter you must rip rip rip and spill pins on a regular basis or you are in danger of losing your quilter status..So you are up to date on your paper work...Just kidding of course pins must be dumped I dump them even when the lid is on..Must keep my Quilter status up to date.I don't shed tears but say bad word very loudly. HUGS