My problem with their seconds is that they cut them up and include them in their charm collections. I bought 6 different charm packs and the same 4-5 clearance fabrics kept showed up in everyone. I know a lot of people like their fabric ,but I was unimpressed by that practice and by their overall fabric quality. Everything else from them has always been perfect and I'll continue to buy many things from them--just not charm packs or fabric.