One of the things I kept running into when looking at what frame to get is when looking at the long arms.. everything was way I mean way out of my league.. I kept running into $10,000.00. Well that was just tooo much. So when I stumbled on the Grace site.. they were very helpful. It is made for the home quilter (which is what I am still) and it was in my price range. I did not get any of the pantos or all the extras you can get, I got the frame and the machine and it was suppose to have a stitch regulator with it.. Mine did not work from the get go.. So it forced me to work with only the Speed control. I have had the pinnacle with the Juki reg for a month now.. I did 3 practice quilts, and learned much from each time. I finally put on one of my real tops. It was the Day & Night by Elenore Burns. It is done. I am not happy with it.. I may rip it out. Very hard to do a straight line in FMQ. It gets little wiggles in the line. So onward and upward. My next one on deck is a jigsaw puzzle piece top.. so I will just be doing stippling.. Wish me luck. So true on the fact that as you go down the quilt once you get almost to the end you can not do the same area as when you started... So planning is hard, turning back and forth to get the desired design.. walking around the big frame.. it all takes lots of time and effort.. so can be frustrating.