I just bought a used Brother ULT2002D. I would really talk to the people first. I was going to buy one can't remember which but it only did 4X4 and they said if you want to do bigger (which you will) that isn't the machine for you. I waited and ended up for an extra $300.00 purchasing the ULT2002D. See if you can get a used one and also see if they will knock off $200.00 we did and I love it.