I did not buy online...I went two seperate days, trying it out, and many more..compairing prices and such...but what the lady told me is a lot of the major dealers of machines all offer the refurbished..or barely used ones online, i spent a great deal of time doing searches, because I initialy bought one i wasn't happy with then had to return it a couple of days later ( bought the singer quilter, and it wasn't quite what I wanted, but it was inexpensive)...so if you have an idea of what your looking for it would be very easy to just get it online.