i have a designer SE LE...LOVE it...it was one of the last one's made in Sweden. If you decided to buy one though i would highly suggest you go to an LQS dealer. You will get a much better deal ( the guys in Joanns can't wheel and deal) and much better customer service. I paid 3600 for my floor model that had only 21 hours on it (that's nothing for these machines) I got all the gooddies, plus...one on one training until i learned how to use the machine, she threw in 3 extra feet, bobbins, needles, ect. plus has "fixed" the BTM&C errors ( between the machine and chair). I love my machine. I wont be getting rid of it until it sews its last stitch.