If taking off the bra works, good, I will try anything before I put any more pills in my system. Yesterday I had a real bad pain in shoulder and I wanted to plant my garden (it`s Hugh only got 1/3 in working from 8:A.M. till 1:P.M.) so I asked my DH if he would put a pain patch on my shoulder before I started. No Pain all day. Took only 2 hrs. off for an apointment, then tilled more garden space till 6:P.M. This morning it rained a little so I get a day off.