Well, it's good to know that I am in good company with the flashlight and the crawling. :) Because of one comment on the board, I did try putting my 12 X 15 mirror on the shelf (where the pantos go) and I can see there, too. It was a DUH moment....why didn't I think of that? So, if I get one of those shop lights that someone else mentioned, I think I'm in business. :) Thanks everyone, you're always sooo helpful!! So glad I found this forum!! I sure do use a lot of "need to be quilting time" on here, though.