I went into Joann's and looked around the fabric area. They have a small selection (about 20 bolts) of the two name brands listed above. They looked very good, not seconds. $9.99 -$12.99 / yard so about the same price as LQS. Only thing is if they go on sale or you have a coupon for 40% off it would be a good deal. I never noticed these brands there before. Does your Joann's carry them or is this something new? Matbe a sign of things to come?