Hmmm. maybe if I just look to use it for PDF like you said it would not seem so intimadating. I am usually pretty good at learning and on my own, but this is a really large program with just too much going on. Probably like yours does. I have been learning Html using the program (my brother showed me how to do some things with html and like he said you really start to get it, it just looks hard) which I suppose is good to know. Well anyway thanks for the input. I think I will take a little bit of time each day to learn alittle. :-)