I'm getting the 820 with frame, bought with 48 mos no interest financing. The frame was included. I don't have room to set it up at full length right now, but it seems like a great frame. My family goes overseas for a month or two every other year, so I'm thinking I could set it up in the living room then and go crazy. But even without the frame, it's the only domestic machine dual feed, BSR, 12" harp, jumbo bobbin. I'm wondering how much the 820 weighs? I'm concerned about taking it to the classes and the ability of my cabinets to support it. The openings are big enough.