I like Roxanne's. I use #11 and #12 betweens. I've had a couple that flunked the quality control test over the years but find they are far better than others that I've used. You really need the Roxanne threader for at least the #12's. The wire on other readily available threaders is just too thick for the #12's. Can't say for certain if that's the case for the #11's also but since I have them for the 12's I use only them anyhow. Colonial Needle is a great source. Good price and very good service in my experience.