Here are Kathie's machines! She just got these! I don't know what I did to take out the first message!
Anyway, I think the Challenge is a Davis from the size of the needle. Davis had a machine called the Challenge. National also had a machine called the Challenge, but since Kathie is describing a Davis long needle, I'd venture to guess this Challenge is made by Davis and it is a pre-1900 machine with the wood pitman.
Kathie, the Elite is a 15 clone. You will probably never be able to date that machine, but it will thread and run similar to any other 15.
White also had a badged machine called a 'Challenge VS,' but I don't think that machine is the White version.
Nice finds!
Nancy
Kathie's Elite 15 clone
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Kathie's Challenge cabinet
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Kathie's Challenge (and part of DH!!)
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