We do our community quilts on a mid arm set up and it is time consuming to get everything loaded if you aren't using zippers. I have helped my friend with a quilt on her older Gammil LA and it took us probably close to an hour to get a King sized loaded and another 4 hours to quilt it following a simple fairly open pantograph. After working on these set-ups I now understand why our LAer's charge what they do. LA quilting is not a quick or easy process and there is definately a lot of learning involved.