ha ha, i am on this forum and not cutting, such a chicken i am, encourage me please, cut jan cut, "it can always go into your - i will do it later boxes (not unlike the christmas skirt i started 15 years ago for my daughter, who now only paints a christmas tree on her wall, and repaints it after christmas, she may have a good point), ah the joy of youth (she is thirty, but i feel as if i should by into the company that makes kiltz)