I agree with quiltcrazy If he is Zonked he is on the wrong dose or med. Some mild cases can be dealt with via exercise /nutrition /herbal aids/scheduling, but some have to be medicated to live a "normal" life. Sticking your feet in the "no meds" cement bucket is just unfair to the person having to deal with this very frustrating infliction. I deal with it every day of my life and if anyone in my life would tell me that I could not have meds cause they didn't think I needed them I can't imagine how I would feel about that person. I know I would feel very misunderstood. That kind of feeling can cause much worse consequences then the wrong med can. If you can't empathize then at least sympathize.