Thanks for the quick reply. That makes more sense since that one I can find on the net. What did we do before we had the net to look things up on??!! I'm learning a lot about older Singer sewing machines since I bought my FW in May and my 99 this month. Now what's next????.... It'll have to be a very good price, like at a garage sale where the price is too good to be true. I just love the look of the older black machines. And they run so quietly, or at least mine do. They are just so pretty too. And I think it's neat to have machines that are older than I am! Now is that telling my age?