I brought home a Singer 404 today. It needs a LOT of clean up. The tension is solid rust and so is the bobbin area. I do have a 404 donor machine though so I think I can get it working. It does turn. Those 404s are totally under estimated these days. They are a really good machine for learning on. They have a drop in bobbin - no case to lose. The needle threads front to back (less chance of threading it wrong) The needle slants so you can see what you are doing - the light has a lens focused right on the needle. DGD has a 7th Birthday on the 3rd.... We shall see if DD will let DGD have my machine of choice for a 7 year old...