The only person I can ask clos eto me is my mom but she doesn't machine quilt really so I don't think she would know to much. Thats were you guys have come in handy with all the suggestions. I will have to plan a weekend for my husband to drive me out to the shops(because i wouldn't know how to get there) so I can look around and try them out. thanx everyone, all the 2 cents are adding up :lol: