:thumbup: Well let start by telling you I just got a new Singer 9960. It has a 10" throat. I don't know about anyone else. To me this is a real sweet machine. I don't know if it is still on sale . It was $1099.99 but singer had their 160 th year. They sold it to me for$448.00. Sewing Machines Plus.com. No taxs no shipping. I have had nothing but good luke with it.