I think that is great. Is there a way to make the top and bottom right and left sides a little rounder? Is it possible to make half orange/half white twister blocks. I haven't used eq in about a year but if it is possible to send the file to me I can also play with it and see what we can both come up with. If not, I like the pic you sent and can use that one. Thanks for all your time and help. I appreciate it so much. Pat