I have a New Joy from about 4 years ago. It has the shelf and lazor on top and you only quilt from the front. When I used it it set next the the windows for extra ligtht. I used it with a Brother Nouvelle 1500. I have upgraded to a HQ Avante' and would love to sell my old system (frame and machine) but not sure how to ship the frame as it would be so long due to some of the pieces. I hate to see them just sit in the closet. We bought it off the floor as a demo at the Houston Quilt Fest a few years ago. What I liked about it most was you only quilted from the front. I love my HQ but boy does it take a lot of room.