Well all I can do is tell you how I get some of my really good deals on furniture and larger items, I always pay in cash, I tell the person I have cash, I say " I will give you x amount for it" I don't give them the option of "will you take?" If it is already a good deal I won't haggle and pay for it, but most of the time with the larger retailers you can get better deals, I do it in Best Buy, Lowes, Home Depot. But be prepared to walk, if they won't come down, cause they are going to test you to see if you are emotional buying.. Good luck hope you get your new machine !